WEBVTT Kind: captions; language: en-us NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:41.300 *starting at second 41* 00:00:41.300 --> 00:00:44.000 Hello everyone, how are you? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:00:44.000 --> 00:01:09.000 *counting how many people are present in classroom and zoom* NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 74% (MEDIUM) 00:01:15.900 --> 00:01:27.449 It's a little bit different than the old course, it is obligatory to be at the classes and seminars and we have to cross out 00:01:27.449 --> 00:01:35.600 your name when you come for attendance and that's why it's a little bit difficult to have you on zoom. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 00:01:35.600 --> 00:01:48.100 I think that in the break we'll talk with you in the zoom and 00:01:48.100 --> 00:01:53.300 then I send the list to you so you can, sign that's the best way to do. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:01:53.700 --> 00:01:56.400 Okay. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 88% (H?Y) 00:01:56.400 --> 00:01:59.700 There is my powerpoint. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 71% (MEDIUM) 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:45.200 *talking about the meeting before the lecture (25th year anniversary of the faculty)* NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 53% (MEDIUM) 00:02:45.200 --> 00:03:23.600 *technical stuff* NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:03:23.600 --> 00:03:30.400 then everything is okay, then we will say hello to Lobna again. There are some things 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:38.300 that you want to ask her? Maybe also about the obligatory things or other things, she will be 00:03:38.300 --> 00:03:49.300 available mostly on the e-mail. Lobna: Use the master e-mail (master@isp), don't use my email. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 77% (H?Y) 00:03:54.350 --> 00:04:01.950 Okay then you can go to work and I start with introduction. I will do what I have done every time, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 85% (H?Y) 00:04:04.050 --> 00:04:09.500 we will have introduction tothe course and ask some questions. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 84% (H?Y) 00:04:10.700 --> 00:04:20.600 this course is called towards inclusive education and I think that maybe you see in the 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:26.100 curriculum what you're going to do, what you're going to deliver, but I think it's good to go through 00:04:26.100 --> 00:04:33.450 together so we have a common understanding of what's expected of you. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 80% (H?Y) 00:04:33.450 --> 00:04:40.900 So you are going to have a learning outcome when it's come to knowledge about inclusive practices but 00:04:40.900 --> 00:04:49.650 that's very very light, so it doesn't say so much. But then it's the field curriculum and didactic 00:04:49.650 --> 00:04:59.500 on a macro and micro level, we might look at to Bronfenbrenner's Model about micro and macro level. 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:09.000 basic knowledge in the field of curriculum of individual and class, group support of learning 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:14.600 development. But for me curriculum is also a national level, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 70% (MEDIUM) 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:22.550 comes for the national to local to the class to the individual. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 77% (H?Y) 00:05:22.550 --> 00:05:30.200 And then it's to understand how to plan, implement, assess and revise individual learning processes in 00:05:30.200 --> 00:05:41.100 groups and class relations. The plan, implementing and assessment are also in the course in the 00:05:41.100 --> 00:05:48.300 springtime about learning difficulties, so how much of it we're going to do now and 00:05:48.300 --> 00:05:53.900 how much we're going to do next course is something we need to find out. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 68% (MEDIUM) 00:05:54.100 --> 00:06:02.300 And then it's the Research based special needs towards inclusion, so this is more 00:06:02.300 --> 00:06:09.299 than knowledge you're going to get. But what are we expected to learn? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 76% (H?Y) 00:06:09.299 --> 00:06:15.500 Curriculum, didactic on macro-micro level, individual and classroom support of learning and 00:06:15.500 --> 00:06:23.750 development and what is the plan, implement and assess individual learning processes in group 00:06:23.750 --> 00:06:33.800 and class relations? If you come to Norway we see that we make this yearly report about 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:40.300 how the special education are and there is not so much room for revise through the year NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 76% (H?Y) 00:06:40.300 --> 00:06:46.000 but I think it's very important to revise because maybe there is something that is not 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:53.300 fitting so very well into the special needs, to the child. Because it can be too ambitious or 00:06:53.300 --> 00:07:00.600 too low expectations, it's very very difficult when it comes to make plans and then 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:06.600 maybe they have more resources than they need or less resources than they need... Maybe they 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:08.850 need intensive course. 00:07:11.700 --> 00:07:16.800 This is not so easy that we have an act that says something else. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 83% (H?Y) 00:07:17.400 --> 00:07:23.500 So then what is the concept of research-based special needs education? This is something that we 00:07:23.500 --> 00:07:28.800 are going to talk about and see how you understand it. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 77% (H?Y) 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:35.400 Skills, how can you manage to have skills in a theoretical course when you're not going out to the 00:07:35.400 --> 00:07:41.400 practice and if you're going to learn inclusive practice, you have to practice so I do not know 00:07:41.400 --> 00:07:44.400 how I can help you to get skills. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM) 00:07:44.400 --> 00:07:50.200 We can reflect on the skills that are needed NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 69% (MEDIUM) 00:07:50.500 --> 00:07:58.800 but you don't have the hands on. So then it asks the educational 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:04.400 differentiation and in planning, implementing and assessing and revising so we have to see the 00:08:04.400 --> 00:08:18.400 differency about the diversity in the classroom. I do think that the class curriculum is used to 00:08:18.400 --> 00:08:21.550 all students in the class very often, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 73% (MEDIUM) 00:08:21.550 --> 00:08:31.700 because I should think that if inclusive and personalized education for all, then every child has 00:08:31.700 --> 00:08:34.900 an individual development plan, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 00:08:34.900 --> 00:08:43.200 not an IEP but an individual development plan and I do not think it so many children who has hit in 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:50.400 the Norwegian schools. And I talk about a small experiment to do it but then 00:08:50.400 --> 00:08:56.600 they say we cannot give an individual educational plan for all pupils in the school. 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:02.400 But ideally we should have. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 69% (MEDIUM) 00:09:02.400 --> 00:09:06.600 We should have one for the class and one for me. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 82% (H?Y) 00:09:07.900 --> 00:09:12.350 This course is saying inclusive education, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 83% (H?Y) 00:09:12.350 --> 00:09:20.100 it stands also for preschool and school level but I think that we are talking more 00:09:20.100 --> 00:09:28.100 about overall thinking on inclusion, it's the same if it's a nursery or it's a preschool so we 00:09:28.100 --> 00:09:37.300 think the same way. But of course when you come to school the curriculum is academic, so more academic 00:09:37.300 --> 00:09:42.800 than in the curriculum. So we can look at social inclusion NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM) 00:09:42.800 --> 00:09:52.300 more in nursery or preschool. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 82% (H?Y) 00:09:52.300 --> 00:10:00.000 I forgot the put it up today but I will go through it on Wednesday, three different way to look at inclusion. 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:08.700 As I have told you before in the last course; Academic, organizational and social inclusion. 00:10:09.950 --> 00:10:17.200 That will nuanca more about inclusion, it's not only social inclusion. And when it 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:25.150 come to intellectual disability in Norway I see that we talk more about social inclusion 00:10:25.150 --> 00:10:27.150 than academic inclusion. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 80% (H?Y) 00:10:27.150 --> 00:10:33.600 It's interesting but it's more talking about social inclusion in the Norwegian School because 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:40.600 we haven't been ... that the academic is important part, it's a little bit hidden. 00:10:40.600 --> 00:10:46.599 It's important also that organizational perspective is 00:10:46.599 --> 00:10:55.800 still needed to have and maybe the organization does come before or after you have planned, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 76% (H?Y) 00:10:55.800 --> 00:11:08.400 that I will talk later on today. So you are expected to have skills about inclusive practice, 00:11:08.400 --> 00:11:14.599 today we will go through in the lecture about a group of teachers who has been doing innovation 00:11:14.599 --> 00:11:23.350 in this very short area of inclusive education and then practices and it is difficult to 00:11:23.350 --> 00:11:26.250 identify what is inclusive practice. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 83% (H?Y) 00:11:26.250 --> 00:11:29.900 I think everything is inclusive practice. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 90% (H?Y) 00:11:29.900 --> 00:11:38.700 So it's diffucult to identify. But the first think to talk about in this course was 00:11:38.700 --> 00:11:41.300 educational differentiation, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:11:41.300 --> 00:11:43.400 planning, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:11:43.400 --> 00:11:46.650 but planning for what? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 74% (MEDIUM) 00:11:46.650 --> 00:11:55.650 You need to have a goal, learn to create learning goals and then plan NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 84% (H?Y) 00:11:55.650 --> 00:12:03.100 and then find a way to organize and choose methods and then you have clear learning goal. Of course 00:12:03.100 --> 00:12:10.500 you can manage to evaluate if the child develops. And we put a lot of effort in the planning in Norway 00:12:10.500 --> 00:12:18.200 but not so much about evaluating the development based on the organizational methods and the 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:20.700 capacity of the child. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 74% (MEDIUM) 00:12:21.500 --> 00:12:30.100 And also learning process group and class relation. Learning processes, 00:12:30.100 --> 00:12:32.300 what is that about? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 85% (H?Y) 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:41.700 What is it for you? 00:12:41.700 --> 00:12:50.200 Is it planning, implementing and assessing or revising or is it what's going on when you are learning and you could go 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:54.800 to the information processing theory. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 80% (H?Y) 00:12:54.800 --> 00:12:58.849 Then you have attention to what you are going to learn and NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 80% (H?Y) 00:12:58.849 --> 00:13:07.500 you have to find out what this doing that and then you have to see when you are working with 00:13:07.500 --> 00:13:16.950 learning processing and how long can you be working with it and what come out of it. And you have had 00:13:16.950 --> 00:13:24.600 the socio-cultural learning theory now he often talks about dynamic 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:29.400 assessment to the teacher to look NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 80% (H?Y) 00:13:29.400 --> 00:13:35.200 how the child is working, the strategy used. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 76% (H?Y) 00:13:35.400 --> 00:13:41.800 And I see how that is functioning well or not well for the child to learn. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 88% (H?Y) 00:13:41.800 --> 00:13:56.099 When I have done observation in the classroom while the teacher doing the teaching and 00:13:56.099 --> 00:14:04.200 pupils were doing learning activities that they did alone, very often alone, the teacher give 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:10.300 information about what they were going to do and then they were working alone, and then the teacher. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 00:14:10.300 --> 00:14:18.600 If I should think Vygotsky's dynamic assessment then I would go around and see how they were 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:22.000 working but the teachers were standing and NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 89% (H?Y) 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:27.500 seeing if they're working or not and if a people is not working... *undetectable* NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:14:40.700 --> 00:14:43.500 Of course they could be to everyone. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 85% (H?Y) 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:51.700 You can have some instruction in starting and those who need can manage to get 00:14:51.700 --> 00:14:56.700 started and later you can see how are they working, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM) 00:14:56.700 --> 00:15:02.600 do they need some support or you can also observe 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:11.200 so you get to know what's going on. And resource based interaction, communication 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:17.800 and interaction is based on that Vygotsky's theory, Bruner's theory NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 80% (H?Y) 00:15:17.800 --> 00:15:27.400 so it is groups, classes and individual work. You can do individual work in the class, you can have group 00:15:27.400 --> 00:15:32.300 collaboration in the class and you can have for a whole class. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 78% (H?Y) 00:15:32.300 --> 00:15:41.300 I think that I I should show you something in lecture later on about how people learn differently. 00:15:41.300 --> 00:15:53.600 So the competency, the competence is as you know, the knowledge you have and the skills 00:15:53.600 --> 00:16:02.550 your have and then you have conpetance. And then you should plan, Implement, assess and revise NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 74% (MEDIUM) 00:16:02.550 --> 00:16:08.450 individual, group and close curricula and if you should have compotence in inclusive practices. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 84% (H?Y) 00:16:08.450 --> 00:16:17.100 I think that you need to have more compotence because it's overall, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 68% (MEDIUM) 00:16:18.700 --> 00:16:27.100 I think that we could have said something about inclusive practices not only for the plan or to 00:16:27.100 --> 00:16:37.000 implement, we need to have some issues there. So you should learn to make a plan and I think the 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:38.500 most of you NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 76% (H?Y) 00:16:38.500 --> 00:16:42.200 can make a plan, has skills to do NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:46.000 but it's more difficult to implement the plan NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:16:46.100 --> 00:16:53.600 and also to assess the implementation of the plan based on the learning goals NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 00:16:53.600 --> 00:17:04.000 and also to find out what are we going to revise. Was it a good way to do it or not? 00:17:05.700 --> 00:17:11.200 and be open for revising. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 00:17:11.300 --> 00:17:23.000 and the individual plan is important because in this group you are individual Learners and 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:30.900 it is like that in class, also there are individual Learners that are different, what strategies they use, 00:17:30.900 --> 00:17:32.450 how they think, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 77% (H?Y) 00:17:32.450 --> 00:17:36.400 how they process the learning? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:39.800 but the group is more difficult NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 00:17:39.800 --> 00:17:45.500 and I have seen group of work with special educational needs and the rest of the 00:17:45.500 --> 00:17:52.900 group is very different in the learning and intellectual cognitive level and then 00:17:52.900 --> 00:18:00.250 teacher is behind that with special needs and the other is working together, that's not a good 00:18:00.250 --> 00:18:07.900 collaboration, we have to think otherwise. But I saw other project where every pupil had to 00:18:07.900 --> 00:18:10.300 present something and everyone could NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 00:18:10.300 --> 00:18:17.250 present based on their own skills and capacity and then they had the presentation in the class 00:18:17.250 --> 00:18:23.900 afterwards, so even then if they didn't work together they could do the 00:18:23.900 --> 00:18:30.100 presentation together because they have done in a way to include that in special 00:18:30.100 --> 00:18:33.250 needs better than the other way. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 87% (H?Y) 00:18:33.250 --> 00:18:39.300 So and then you have the class. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 00:18:39.400 --> 00:18:48.600 In Norway we have this textbooks for first grade, second grade, third grade and if you 00:18:48.600 --> 00:18:58.100 have a child with special educational needs, they want to have the same textbook as their peers 00:18:58.100 --> 00:19:03.150 even they are not on that level. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 77% (H?Y) 00:19:03.150 --> 00:19:15.000 So to make number on these books causes exclucion but if you say that everyone will 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:21.900 have different text books based on their skills, capacity and not grades on it. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 84% (H?Y) 00:19:21.900 --> 00:19:27.500 But you can have differentiated for the first grade, second grade, you can differentiate at the 00:19:27.500 --> 00:19:34.400 basic and then we build up and when you are ready for it you have the book for higher grade. 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:41.850 maybe a pupil is in third grade and maybe they should be in seventh grade in mathematic, 00:19:41.850 --> 00:19:50.199 but they are not able to that so they are bored. So so we have to be more creative and 00:19:50.199 --> 00:19:52.400 think another way to do it. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 00:19:52.400 --> 00:20:00.850 And national curriculum is for first grade, second grade, third grade, so it is excluding because 00:20:00.850 --> 00:20:07.400 you do not need to put it like that and the class "they should manage that and that in the 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:12.400 first grade, second grade, third grade, fourth grade " and all the international tests are going to be same. 00:20:14.800 --> 00:20:19.150 That's not inclusive I think. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 87% (H?Y) 00:20:19.150 --> 00:20:29.100 The system say that we are going to meet the diversity but they do it like this, we should be the same. 00:20:31.600 --> 00:20:41.200 So it's difficult, therefore we need to find some solution that manage them to not be so excluding. 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:53.199 Then we have the course content and will be research based communication and mediation. 00:20:53.199 --> 00:20:55.350 ... of early intervention, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 88% (H?Y) 00:20:55.350 --> 00:21:01.100 inclusion in preschool and school, development of individual educational plan, and structuring 00:21:01.100 --> 00:21:09.700 flexible curricula. I do not think we have some very very much about early intervention, you can 00:21:09.700 --> 00:21:15.400 think that early intervention is doing good pedagogical practices. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM) 00:21:20.500 --> 00:21:28.400 We will do a little bit about research communication and mediation and also something about individual 00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:35.600 plan and structuring flexible curricular and classroom I think that we will have a lot about 00:21:35.600 --> 00:21:40.100 inclusive practice in the classroom. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 73% (MEDIUM) 00:21:40.100 --> 00:21:50.100 This is very much based on Berit Johnsen who have developed this course, what we had before is socio 00:21:50.100 --> 00:22:01.400 cultural theory and she has she developed a curriculum that she used a lot 00:22:02.800 --> 00:22:11.000 but I think that we can't use the same way, we're not using her curriculum but you will 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:18.500 read about it. She will not be teaching so therefore it's not so normal that the others are so much 00:22:18.500 --> 00:22:22.900 into it. But curriculum, we will talk about it. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 78% (H?Y) 00:22:22.900 --> 00:22:30.800 The lectures are obligatory, seminars are obligatory, and then we have the literature study, and you 00:22:30.800 --> 00:22:34.200 have student group and planary discussions, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 73% (MEDIUM) 00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:42.700 and you have the individual and group activities that are obligatory, and we use canvas. 00:22:42.700 --> 00:22:50.500 The lecture will be recorded it will be there 00:22:50.500 --> 00:22:56.400 for 14 days. Now we are in the normal situation with physical lectures so we wish 00:22:56.400 --> 00:23:04.650 everyone could be here and if there are many that has to join from zoom we need have info about this, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 70% (MEDIUM) 00:23:04.650 --> 00:23:11.000 so for those who think that they are going to have the lecture on zoom, we need to have an extra 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:13.400 meeting to talk about this. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 00:23:15.900 --> 00:23:24.600 Then on Thursday I was going more into the planning of this lecture and 00:23:24.600 --> 00:23:33.400 we should look at canvas, how should we organize canvas and since I have only been NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:40.800 taking over this course the time I thought it was this course, I think it was the course that you had 00:23:40.800 --> 00:23:47.300 with Luca that I have to have. And I had much work on the 00:23:47.300 --> 00:23:53.600 syllabus and didn't have so many lectures because it wasn't so easy for me to change something we 00:23:53.600 --> 00:23:59.800 didn't have lectures so I've worked with more student activities and then when I see now is that 00:24:00.950 --> 00:24:06.600 you have group work like the first course you had based on the literature. 00:24:06.600 --> 00:24:13.100 Here is group work based on selected articles or part of the syllabus, I think that 00:24:13.100 --> 00:24:20.500 I will select the articles that are part of the syllabus that you are fitting into the lecture when 00:24:20.500 --> 00:24:22.650 you are giving the seminar. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 77% (H?Y) 00:24:22.650 --> 00:24:29.500 So then you have to read it and then you have to discuss and then have a collective 00:24:29.500 --> 00:24:40.000 analysis of the article. I have been having a lecture for another course about critical reading 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:48.650 and then how you analyze articles so maybe I should have done a little bit about that on seminar 00:24:48.650 --> 00:24:53.300 then you have a common way to analyze. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:24:53.400 --> 00:25:01.900 But the other thing that I had trouble to find out how to organize was the individual presentation 00:25:01.900 --> 00:25:09.600 during the course, how should we do that, everyone should have an individual presentation. So what I 00:25:09.600 --> 00:25:13.900 did was that I think that when we have a two-hour seminar, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 72% (MEDIUM) 00:25:13.900 --> 00:25:24.400 I split that on campus group to four groups but that I said that everyone who are on SNE4120 00:25:25.100 --> 00:25:35.700 is with me and you are 23 students, we split them in four groups, 00:25:35.700 --> 00:25:38.900 a b c d then we have four groups. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 82% (H?Y) 00:25:38.900 --> 00:25:51.500 and then the first individual presentation is with Group 1 A and B and then Group C and D are 00:25:51.500 --> 00:25:59.200 working with article. One our without and one with presentation so we shift and I 00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:05.600 have to be with those who present the presentation and the discussion in the group has 00:26:05.600 --> 00:26:09.450 to be going on with yourself and then you have a summary of the discussion NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 67% (MEDIUM) 00:26:09.450 --> 00:26:18.650 and put it to Canvas. And then Hakan and Sofia has said that they will be participating 00:26:18.650 --> 00:26:23.550 in the seminar so they can go around if you have a question when you're analyzing the article. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 72% (MEDIUM) 00:26:23.550 --> 00:26:29.500 But I take the responsibility for your individual presentations. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 87% (H?Y) 00:26:29.900 --> 00:26:38.200 So I had to really think how am I going to to do all these presentations because 00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:42.000 you are 23. 00:26:47.699 --> 00:26:54.500 I think that I will not structure it so much about the articles, I think I will have the 00:26:54.500 --> 00:27:00.500 topics that we have in the seminars and that are in the curriculum 00:27:00.500 --> 00:27:07.350 and I say make a presentation of this topic and do it the way you want, and you can use the 00:27:07.350 --> 00:27:11.350 lectures or the reading or find something else. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 80% (H?Y) 00:27:11.350 --> 00:27:17.400 And I said the presentation is not more than 20 minutes because we also have to 00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:24.000 ask questions, 20 minutes maximum, 15 to 20 minutes. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 69% (MEDIUM) 00:27:25.300 --> 00:27:36.150 Two groups are together, if I split 23 students in four groups, a b c d, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 66% (MEDIUM) 00:27:36.150 --> 00:27:43.449 and A and B are together, present, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 58% (MEDIUM) 00:27:43.449 --> 00:27:47.250 C and D together. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 72% (MEDIUM) 00:27:47.250 --> 00:27:57.800 So A and B start and the others start with article. 00:27:57.800 --> 00:28:03.900 it's more in my head- I know how it is and I try to explain it to Sophia and Hakan and now 00:28:03.900 --> 00:28:08.500 I try to explain it to you so you have a little bit of the feeling what it is about. I will make the 00:28:08.500 --> 00:28:13.900 structure then you're doing it. But it is only two groups that are together in the presentation, not 00:28:13.900 --> 00:28:15.900 the whole class. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 78% (H?Y) 00:28:22.600 --> 00:28:30.500 You are doing the individual presentation for half of the 23. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:28:30.900 --> 00:28:37.100 And the same day one more has going to do it, not only you. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 00:28:37.100 --> 00:28:44.700 And then from other groups, two groups, they will have presentation also but your are presenting 00:28:44.700 --> 00:28:50.900 to maybe 10 11 12 in the room. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 77% (H?Y) 00:28:52.600 --> 00:28:55.200 And I will be there. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 00:28:55.200 --> 00:29:10.200 No it's for one, 15 to 20 mins and then we have questions 00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:32.800 With your questions we will use 30 mins because we will ask reflective questions so we should learn from your presentation. 00:29:32.800 --> 00:29:42.800 It's a very normal way to do presentation so I think it's not difficult. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 70% (MEDIUM) 00:29:42.800 --> 00:29:50.199 Attendance 80%, maximum 20% absence. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:29:50.199 --> 00:29:56.400 So and then we have the examination, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 00:29:59.500 --> 00:30:08.800 it's individual, it's home example, usually this 00:30:08.800 --> 00:30:10.900 is for a week. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 78% (H?Y) 00:30:13.900 --> 00:30:17.600 And it's 10 pages. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:30:22.300 --> 00:30:28.200 There is no minimum NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 84% (H?Y) 00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:34.000 but if you have five pages that will be too little. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 85% (H?Y) 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.600 Closest to 10. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 86% (H?Y) 00:30:45.600 --> 00:30:54.700 I do not think that it is so easy to have less than 10, very often we have more. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 88% (H?Y) 00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:00.900 Have you seen the earlier exam? 00:31:08.900 --> 00:31:17.100 Describe and discuss how curriculum relation approach can be... 00:31:17.100 --> 00:31:20.900 she has made this relational approach, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 82% (H?Y) 00:31:21.600 --> 00:31:28.000 can be applied in planning and practicing in teaching, learning, development process for people with 00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:31.900 special educational needs in an ordinary class. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 00:31:34.500 --> 00:31:41.600 discuss how it can contribute to personal professional development of special needs teacher. 00:31:45.600 --> 00:31:52.000 and this course how the curriculum relation approach can be used in classroom studies. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 77% (H?Y) 00:31:54.200 --> 00:32:02.200 but if you don't use this relational approach it could have said curriculum NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 73% (MEDIUM) 00:32:02.500 --> 00:32:15.100 approaches, we could have said that experience curriculum from the pupils perspective, if you took this 00:32:15.100 --> 00:32:21.600 look at Goodlad's sir point of view he says the experience from the pupils and then 00:32:21.600 --> 00:32:29.700 you have the national, the more formality so and I think that we will introduce you to Goodlad's NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 71% (MEDIUM) 00:32:29.700 --> 00:32:32.100 curriculum theory. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 83% (H?Y) 00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:42.000 but I should also show you to the curriculum relational approach that Berit has done but not 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:48.900 so much in deep, because she has been doing this course with that model for everything. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 72% (MEDIUM) 00:32:51.400 --> 00:33:01.900 So that is how it is but it might be something totally different than the last seminar, I think that 00:33:01.900 --> 00:33:05.450 in the Tenth of December we NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 77% (H?Y) 00:33:05.450 --> 00:33:15.300 try to prepare for exam, different because it's many activities there so that you can prepare 00:33:15.300 --> 00:33:24.900 for it, to give you some preparation about how to make an outline for the exam. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 82% (H?Y) 00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:34.500 so we can go into more examples of exams because that mentally you are prepared for what we have been 00:33:34.500 --> 00:33:43.600 lecturing, what the seminar has been doing, and then prepare directly on what you're going to do on the exam. 00:33:44.850 --> 00:33:49.850 but you have time so don't stress when it's come to this exam. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 63% (MEDIUM) 00:33:49.850 --> 00:33:52.500 I think that's a good thing. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:33:56.700 --> 00:33:59.500 here you see NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:33:59.500 --> 00:34:02.300 the different NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 83% (H?Y) 00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:13.900 lectures, today I have introduction and the next time I will have the inclusive education, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 82% (H?Y) 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:25.100 and then I will have a lecture on wednesday 00:34:25.100 --> 00:34:32.600 that called inclusive practices in organizational perspective and curriculum planning. So that it was 00:34:32.600 --> 00:34:40.199 too little on curriculum. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 84% (H?Y) 00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:49.750 and then we have Ivar Morken that is talking about inclusive practices in a psychosocial perspective 00:34:49.750 --> 00:35:00.050 and I had talked about the organizational social and academic inclusion but NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 77% (H?Y) 00:35:00.050 --> 00:35:06.450 in Norway have been pushing so much about psychosocial environment NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 83% (H?Y) 00:35:06.450 --> 00:35:16.100 and it's me in this environment but it's all the other in that environment, so it's existing in 00:35:16.100 --> 00:35:17.800 the classroom. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 00:35:18.900 --> 00:35:30.100 So Ivar will talk about that and we have just published an article 00:35:30.100 --> 00:35:39.050 about these three perspective so we can give you that also as some some extra to read about. 00:35:39.050 --> 00:35:47.500 and then I come more to the academic perspective of individual and individual educational plan. 00:35:49.150 --> 00:35:58.700 I write about the learning leadership from the teacher then I 00:35:58.700 --> 00:36:00.850 think more about academic NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 76% (H?Y) 00:36:00.850 --> 00:36:07.600 and then I have more leadership of relation then I think more about relation 00:36:07.600 --> 00:36:12.700 perspective, about psychosocial things going on in the classroom and you know that in Norway 00:36:12.700 --> 00:36:20.900 we still have a lot of bullying and it's hidden bullying. And we are obligated to do a lot of to 00:36:20.900 --> 00:36:23.000 hinder this. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 80% (H?Y) 00:36:23.600 --> 00:36:30.550 And I think for many years we are talking about class Leadership and the psychosocial relation 00:36:30.550 --> 00:36:38.600 and the behavioral problems that are in the classroom. So Ivar will have that one and I will 00:36:38.600 --> 00:36:45.500 have more the academic perspective as I put to individual adapted education that is in the 00:36:45.500 --> 00:36:47.000 Norwegian educational act. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 71% (MEDIUM) 00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:55.850 And then we will have assessment NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 00:36:55.850 --> 00:37:03.500 of individual needs organizational issue of inclusion. Rikka will have that and I think she has 00:37:03.500 --> 00:37:16.900 donea lot with mathematical difficulties. then is more about how you test things and 00:37:16.900 --> 00:37:23.200 also how that influenced organizational perspective on inclusion. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 76% (H?Y) 00:37:23.500 --> 00:37:29.850 and then we have more on how to practice on socio cultural perspective, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 85% (H?Y) 00:37:29.850 --> 00:37:32.400 inclusive education. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:38.450 We have two part of that. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 83% (H?Y) 00:37:38.450 --> 00:37:46.500 And then we have more about neurobiological development. 00:37:46.500 --> 00:37:54.400 As i said information processing theory is more about how our brains function. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 83% (H?Y) 00:37:55.200 --> 00:38:02.100 And then we end up with success criteria of the development and the relation to this 00:38:02.100 --> 00:38:04.800 inclusive educational practices. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 54% (MEDIUM) 00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:09.200 And then summary of the course and preparing for exam. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 82% (H?Y) 00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:17.800 So this is what it is, you have something to ask about? 00:38:20.100 --> 00:38:23.200 This is not seminars. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:34.100 Yeah we have two groups and they are obligatory but almost half the group 00:38:34.100 --> 00:38:35.750 on zoom today. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 73% (MEDIUM) 00:38:35.750 --> 00:38:50.800 Other lecturers have digital teaching lecture and recording. 00:38:50.800 --> 00:39:01.600 Rikka is maybe in Finland but I don't know why the other two doing this way. 00:39:01.600 --> 00:39:10.600 I saw that today but I will ask about that if you will only have digital, 00:39:10.600 --> 00:39:18.400 because they don't have a room now, the plan was made in the spring when 00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:22.500 everything was digital. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 00:39:23.100 --> 00:39:30.700 But now the university expect more the physical attendance as normal settings. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:39:34.200 --> 00:39:44.700 Yes I haven't done it yet but I will do that, so I will do this with resources that 00:39:44.700 --> 00:39:49.750 you're going to read and same I with the seminars. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 85% (H?Y) 00:39:49.750 --> 00:39:59.300 I have only take the Fridays, I really wished that the administration didn't make two groups, 00:39:59.300 --> 00:40:07.850 I should have the same day for both. I did that way in springtime. Because I should also 00:40:07.850 --> 00:40:13.500 be involved in that one group because it's much easier. As a big group you are 00:40:13.500 --> 00:40:18.000 working together in small groups but still we start with introduction in the beginning and if you 00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:20.050 need some help I can and we always had NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 84% (H?Y) 00:40:20.050 --> 00:40:26.300 the group at the same time. So I can contact the responsible person for the course, I think it's not 00:40:26.300 --> 00:40:31.100 so good that I don't have the contact with that digital group. If it's possible for all of you 00:40:31.100 --> 00:40:39.400 to be there on Friday. But Gulbin can have SNE3120 00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:46.150 and I have SNE4120, there are 11 in exchange students NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:40:46.150 --> 00:40:50.000 and it's 23 from the program. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 87% (H?Y) 00:40:50.800 --> 00:41:02.700 So I have got rooms in George Sverdrups hus as last time but we will meet here at the 00:41:02.700 --> 00:41:12.200 auditorium 2 and then one time it's three December in the other building so it can be a 00:41:12.200 --> 00:41:21.100 little bit confusing. These three times we are meeting in different rooms. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 83% (H?Y) 00:41:21.649 --> 00:41:28.000 Did you see how I split the group's, the four groups? 2 A B C D, because we couldn't say 00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:31.800 Seminar Group 1 2 3 4 so therefore we have A B C D. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 87% (H?Y) 00:41:32.700 --> 00:41:40.900 You don't know which group you are in but Lobna will do that. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 84% (H?Y) 00:41:41.600 --> 00:41:48.800 It is on Canvas because Lobna and I... 00:41:54.400 --> 00:42:00.000 Because it'll make a room for each. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 82% (H?Y) 00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:08.600 Because the work has to be there and I got there and pick it up 00:42:08.600 --> 00:42:14.800 instead of receiving e-mails. 00:42:23.600 --> 00:42:30.100 This is what I explained about the seminar that we have our individual presentation 60 00:42:30.100 --> 00:42:37.200 minutes, Max 20 minutes to each and then group work with the article. 00:42:59.600 --> 00:43:08.700 What I'm talking about now is only the Fridays, we need to get everyone on Fridays, that's SNE4120 00:43:08.700 --> 00:43:13.200 has own groups. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 80% (H?Y) 00:43:15.200 --> 00:43:20.200 So it doesn't matter if they have Friday or Thursday. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:28.800 There will only two groups in the other one. Because you are more people. 00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:36.600 I had to be sure that I get this individual presentation on all the seminars, five seminars. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:43:42.700 --> 00:43:51.900 I will write what kind of article are you going to read, so before I put 00:43:51.900 --> 00:43:57.600 this PPT on Canvas I will put this article so you are aware of that. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 84% (H?Y) 00:43:57.600 --> 00:44:06.200 I have already did it for Friday but I didn't put it in. Do you have a question? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 86% (H?Y) 00:44:07.600 --> 00:44:14.900 Yes you have to present on Friday so 00:44:14.900 --> 00:44:26.000 I have to inform you on mail who is going to present. 00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:32.150 It's very normal that that topic will be NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 76% (H?Y) 00:44:32.150 --> 00:44:40.200 more inclusive practice as you think about inclusive practice and we want to have a focus in what 00:44:40.200 --> 00:44:48.950 you want to talk about and how do you think it will function in inclusive practice. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 82% (H?Y) 00:44:48.950 --> 00:44:56.900 And also the organizational perspective I think we can develop in the lecture and then see what 00:44:56.900 --> 00:45:05.100 you might read about it. Because it's so early and you didn't have some time to prepare so much. 00:45:05.100 --> 00:45:11.300 Don't be too ambitious, it's more that we get this introduction to have a discussion, reflection. 00:45:11.300 --> 00:45:17.800 Its more that I'm standing here and talk about it and you don't have reflection. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 74% (MEDIUM) 00:45:23.100 --> 00:45:30.900 So then 15 minutes is enough so we have 15 minutes for 00:45:30.900 --> 00:45:33.600 reflection about this topic. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:45:33.900 --> 00:45:44.000 You see it more in your head now? That's good. Because it's sometimes very complex to organize things. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 87% (H?Y) 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:55.149 And here is the literature so you see it's easy for me to put chapters or articles into NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 82% (H?Y) 00:45:55.149 --> 00:46:01.400 the groups, the seminar. I select the most important that I think you should read. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 83% (H?Y) 00:46:10.600 --> 00:46:17.100 so you see I will put this in this in Slyllabus and all of you have the same article of course. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:30.400 Are there more questions? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:40.000 Are you more clear about how this will function? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 80% (H?Y) 00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:52.200 What you are going to do, what we expect, how you are going to work, what your individual input are for us? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 71% (MEDIUM) 00:46:53.300 --> 00:47:05.600 It is based on the same way that the first course but you don't get some much time with the 00:47:05.600 --> 00:47:16.350 article, only maximum 1 hour. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 00:47:16.350 --> 00:47:24.600 So therefore I can put some from the critical reading on what's most important. 00:47:42.900 --> 00:47:47.399 Are there anyone from the zoom that want to say something? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 00:47:47.399 --> 00:47:50.000 Ask for something? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:48:04.500 --> 00:48:07.000 No one. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:48:08.600 --> 00:48:11.450 Then you take a break. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 00:48:11.450 --> 00:48:21.000 And I will talk a little bit with you on the zoom, don't take a break yet. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 60% (MEDIUM) 00:48:32.500 --> 00:51:49.300 *starting back at 51.50* 00:51:49.300 --> 00:52:00.550 Then we start, we had some technical issues here. I think everyone 00:52:00.550 --> 00:52:10.250 is here. What you are on zoom cannot see is that I'm on the Blackboard have said 00:52:10.250 --> 00:52:17.550 inclusive practice, inclusive educational practice, what is it about? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 84% (H?Y) 00:52:17.550 --> 00:52:25.800 And I said to someone before I went out that "can you try to start to discuss what it is, what you 00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:28.600 want to put on it" 00:52:44.100 --> 00:52:55.550 Before the content in the course is about the Curriculum, pedagogical and didactic approaches NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 87% (H?Y) 00:52:55.550 --> 00:53:00.649 and then I said methods and organizations, collaboration NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 86% (H?Y) 00:53:00.649 --> 00:53:07.050 curriculum planning is important part but still the other thing is a part of the curriculum planning 00:53:07.050 --> 00:53:15.700 but it also about the development of inclusive practices because inclusive practices will never 00:53:15.700 --> 00:53:18.950 be fully successful. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 83% (H?Y) 00:53:18.950 --> 00:53:26.400 So it's the development process that is important. We also have to implement the policy of 00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:35.300 inclusive education into practice, we had a lot of policy in the first course but it was 00:53:35.300 --> 00:53:40.900 different understanding how inclusion and the policy of inclusion, of relations, of the person, so you 00:53:40.900 --> 00:53:43.250 have to have a focus. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 85% (H?Y) 00:53:43.250 --> 00:53:54.200 So then you help me, what we put as focus? We don't use this overall 00:53:54.200 --> 00:54:02.300 aspect there but what would you say that is vision for inclusion are that is not there? But you have 00:54:02.300 --> 00:54:05.100 to have a topic for example. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 61% (MEDIUM) 00:54:07.900 --> 00:54:13.700 We talked first about placement, didn't we? 00:54:20.300 --> 00:54:25.300 But was there something else we were talking about in the first course? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 00:54:58.900 --> 00:55:04.150 Acceptance and sense of belongingness and placement of SEN. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 82% (H?Y) 00:55:04.150 --> 00:55:11.300 And then how are these things are connected? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:55:11.300 --> 00:55:24.100 Acceptance and sense of belongingness and placement of SEN, how are these hanging together? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:55:32.100 --> 00:55:35.100 Is it the school or... NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM) 00:55:35.100 --> 00:55:38.800 Is it the school they need to belong? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 89% (H?Y) 00:55:48.600 --> 00:55:57.400 We need the community to belonginess because it's not belonging for me to go 00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:04.500 around here but it's belongingness to be a part of the community. As we saw university outside 00:56:04.500 --> 00:56:10.700 all students were in a circle, standing together and talking, 00:56:10.700 --> 00:56:16.800 that was one community but then we have another community inside sitting here waiting 00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:19.900 for the other one and they were talking together. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 90% (H?Y) 00:56:19.900 --> 00:56:23.200 Set them together, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 00:56:23.200 --> 00:56:28.000 and that's going to create the belongingness. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 80% (H?Y) 00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:38.400 How many of your country has special school as the traditional 00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:47.850 way of doing teaching for those special needs? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 00:56:47.850 --> 00:57:04.000 Because then we talk about the SNE in special school classes. 00:57:08.500 --> 00:57:17.650 Every Community you are a part of gives a sense of belongingness NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 87% (H?Y) 00:57:17.650 --> 00:57:23.000 because you cant be in a special school and being excluded. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 90% (H?Y) 00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:50.899 There are many believing in that as the only way of understanding inclusion, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 00:57:53.600 --> 00:57:58.750 you can call it narrow understanding for inclusive education. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 77% (H?Y) 00:57:58.750 --> 00:58:03.500 inclusion is a word, but if you say inclusion in a school for all NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 00:58:05.100 --> 00:58:09.950 then it is just what you say, inclusion in school for all. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 68% (MEDIUM) 00:58:09.950 --> 00:58:20.000 And since those started to develop this approach was thinking 00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:26.600 just like you are saying, but now we are changed a little bit because we talk about education for all, 00:58:26.600 --> 00:58:33.250 inclusion for all, but inclusion for those with special needs and of course we think very much about 00:58:33.250 --> 00:58:40.500 inclusive education for all also special education students in a school that are nearby NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 88% (H?Y) 00:58:40.500 --> 00:58:48.600 were you are living. And that's a goal but if the situation is not like that then we have to 00:58:48.600 --> 00:58:56.700 work with inclusion as a concept where you are. As we see now in Norway Treffsikkerhet: 72% (MEDIUM) 00:58:58.400 --> 00:59:08.550 I think in 1998 that we almost close all special schools 00:59:08.550 --> 00:59:17.000 and said they should go in school for all nearby where they were living. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 90% (H?Y) 00:59:17.100 --> 00:59:27.350 but still there were special classes in schools in Oslo they were 00:59:27.350 --> 00:59:32.600 place to school where they have the resources. Not special schools but classses. 00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:53.600 That depends on what you are relying on, that definition you have, then it's not inclusion but 00:59:53.600 --> 01:00:00.149 if you are have a wider or more other understanding on inclusion NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 78% (H?Y) 01:00:00.149 --> 01:00:06.700 it has that you are in the community you are belonging to. So then we say we have special schools in 01:00:06.700 --> 01:00:14.200 Norway, there are pupils special schools that they cannot be 01:00:14.200 --> 01:00:20.000 together with other because there are sick and it's almost like obviously we cannot 01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:22.600 practice there because there was a sick person. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 84% (H?Y) 01:00:22.600 --> 01:00:30.100 That's a kind of special school. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 80% (H?Y) 01:00:32.100 --> 01:00:54.400 Also prison teaching as we have. So we have too see it in a wider way. I agree with you that we are talking about inclusion is mainly 01:00:54.400 --> 01:01:01.600 though that it is to be in an ordinary school for all and in the ordinary classroom, then it's the placement. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 82% (H?Y) 01:01:01.600 --> 01:01:07.850 but if you have the settings a special school for special classes we also need to think 01:01:07.850 --> 01:01:15.400 inclusion and if you have special classes because the competence isn't good enough and we have a 01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:22.200 big discussion with that in Norway. Because to include all in school for all you also need special 01:01:22.200 --> 01:01:27.100 educational competence because we need to know about the different disabilities for example autism 01:01:27.100 --> 01:01:32.350 we really need to know what settings are the best for that person. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM) 01:01:32.350 --> 01:01:42.100 Not only about autism but who that person is and I see in Kringsja 01:01:42.100 --> 01:01:48.900 that they have groups where they have to sit in a room for themselves and they have to be together 01:01:48.900 --> 01:01:53.800 with a very small group outside and then you have those who are in the ordinary classroom that are 01:01:53.800 --> 01:02:01.100 able to be there. Difficult things with that is 01:02:02.550 --> 01:02:09.400 if you come up with a solution that can be the only solution we have, and that was the way it was done they have special 01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:13.500 schools all over Norway, that that was the only option they have. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 82% (H?Y) 01:02:13.500 --> 01:02:20.600 but now they have the option, parents works for the to be in ordinary school. 01:02:20.600 --> 01:02:27.500 But if there are good inclusive practices or good special educational practices we can discuss. 01:02:36.100 --> 01:02:45.250 Parents can choose, I will always show you the act about the exercises 01:02:45.250 --> 01:02:52.550 but the parents can decide if they want to try to be in the school nearby them. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 89% (H?Y) 01:02:52.550 --> 01:02:57.500 that's because we have public school so they can choose for themselves. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 76% (H?Y) 01:02:57.500 --> 01:03:03.500 If they want it school has to prepare for it. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 01:03:04.600 --> 01:03:09.200 But still there are special classes and schools. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 70% (MEDIUM) 01:03:09.200 --> 01:03:11.300 More special I think. 01:03:16.399 --> 01:03:26.500 That's even better because if you are able you can find these solutions about going together 01:03:26.500 --> 01:03:35.400 to make friendships after schooling, all the kind of alternative in the nature where 01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:45.149 you learn by being together with animals or making farming or experience the nature. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 90% (H?Y) 01:03:45.149 --> 01:03:53.149 So you can do it with all going to school but not in the regular classroom NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 87% (H?Y) 01:03:53.149 --> 01:03:59.800 and if not, you of course have to do the classroom for everyone. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 85% (H?Y) 01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:05.200 And how are you doing in creating a classroom for everyone? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 86% (H?Y) 01:04:05.200 --> 01:04:08.350 That I could give you as a task. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 87% (H?Y) 01:04:08.350 --> 01:04:32.900 Then you may have to think about it. That's why we are talking about the organization, how do 01:04:32.900 --> 01:04:36.300 we organize the school and the classroom. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 88% (H?Y) 01:04:37.500 --> 01:04:43.950 Of course you have to connect that to another type of metodology. 01:04:45.950 --> 01:04:54.000 But you gave me an idea because I can give you this task to 01:04:54.000 --> 01:05:00.300 create the classroom for all. What methods do you want use or how would you 01:05:00.300 --> 01:05:04.850 organize the classroom, the seating and everything? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 80% (H?Y) 01:05:04.850 --> 01:05:13.200 Because then you think about universal pedagogical approaches. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 88% (H?Y) 01:05:35.600 --> 01:05:42.000 And that's a very good way to do it because then you have to think when you do the individual 01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:47.700 educational plan and the classroom plans. That's why they are connecting. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 74% (MEDIUM) 01:05:47.700 --> 01:05:54.700 So you have to go out of the traditional teaching to manage this. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 01:05:54.700 --> 01:06:03.600 And you have also maybe have to have more room than the classroom, you can have group rooms, individual rooms... 01:06:03.600 --> 01:06:11.500 Because for example in a school I observed they had nopossibility to be alone 01:06:11.500 --> 01:06:14.300 if they wanted to be alone for a while. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 76% (H?Y) 01:06:14.300 --> 01:06:24.000 Some needs the silence to work properly so to be in the classroom can be distractive. 01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:30.300 So you can also make it with walls that are open but still you have the noise and some are very 01:06:30.300 --> 01:06:36.000 sensitive about the noise. But I think that's the way to solve this problem that you have to 01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:41.400 think it into individual education plan and the class. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 76% (H?Y) 01:06:41.500 --> 01:06:50.100 I think that if they have done this in Norway they wouldn't struggled so much. 01:06:50.100 --> 01:06:57.100 today the struggle too much to find out, they don't know how to do. and in the teacher education, they don't 01:06:57.100 --> 01:06:58.300 teach about it. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 85% (H?Y) 01:06:58.300 --> 01:07:04.100 but it is should be ordinary teacher manage it and also sometimes the special education teacher 01:07:04.100 --> 01:07:10.600 but I have not see any position that we need to have a special education in the Norwegian School. 01:07:10.600 --> 01:07:15.100 In Finland and Sweden they have but not in Norway. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 65% (MEDIUM) 01:07:15.100 --> 01:07:19.100 They don't demand competence. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 01:07:19.100 --> 01:07:24.450 But we come into it now by doing this NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 87% (H?Y) 01:07:24.450 --> 01:07:31.800 instead of talking around it. So we need to be very specific and also you have a solution 01:07:31.800 --> 01:07:37.600 if you should have a sense of belongingness and meeting the diversity. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 64% (MEDIUM) 01:07:38.200 --> 01:07:43.900 Then we also have to put that into the curriculum. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 73% (MEDIUM) 01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:50.550 That's was a good discussion, thank you so much for bringing it in. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 84% (H?Y) 01:07:50.550 --> 01:07:58.700 We cannot work with inclusive practices without collaboration. 01:07:58.700 --> 01:08:08.200 What do you think about collaboration? What is that about if you think about inclusive practices? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 01:08:13.400 --> 01:08:16.600 Collaboration, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 83% (H?Y) 01:08:26.600 --> 01:08:31.149 who should be included in collaboration? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 87% (H?Y) 01:08:31.149 --> 01:08:33.899 The pupil, 01:08:43.700 --> 01:08:47.600 why is that important? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 67% (MEDIUM) 01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:13.399 For me the collaboration is about did the NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 88% (H?Y) 01:09:13.399 --> 01:09:16.200 teacher ask about pupil about NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 82% (H?Y) 01:09:16.200 --> 01:09:20.899 how do I learn best, how much effort I will put into, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 83% (H?Y) 01:09:20.899 --> 01:09:27.300 am I motivated, can that collaboration help to motivate to understand why you are going what to learn... 01:09:27.300 --> 01:09:31.399 You have something to say? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 65% (MEDIUM) 01:10:21.500 --> 01:10:31.200 I can't repeat everything to you on zoom but I think we have different approach to also to how the pupil should be involved in collaboration 01:10:31.200 --> 01:10:36.700 in the classroom also, so it's not only about being aware of what they are going to learn but you're also working 01:10:36.700 --> 01:10:45.750 together with other people to earn to be together with them but also NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 74% (MEDIUM) 01:10:45.750 --> 01:10:52.100 we need to be involved how are we going to be involved in what we're doing, we work alone or 01:10:52.100 --> 01:11:00.700 will we work together with someone, are we able to do or not be able to do, what is difficult for us... 01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:15.950 for example I had children that don't want to have individual presentation for NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 01:11:15.950 --> 01:11:21.900 the group because it's too scary for them and we have to adapt and find out how are we going to do it then. 01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:32.800 or are we training everyone the same. but the main thing that the teaching is 01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:40.500 about what the student say, he/she is the only one who can say if they belong or not. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 01:11:40.800 --> 01:11:48.000 I cannot as a teacher say that you belong, I can only see something but what is going on in your head, 01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:54.650 the thoughts and the feelings, just only way that the teacher can get knowledgeable about pupil is 01:11:54.650 --> 01:12:04.100 you talk with and ask how you can create the circumstances for the pupil 01:12:04.100 --> 01:12:07.200 together with others. 01:12:07.200 --> 01:12:27.200 But there are other to collaborate. Parents. So then teachers, special educator if they have and if you have technical support 01:12:27.200 --> 01:12:47.200 coming from one place to other with physical problems or you need help to following the lecture etc. 01:12:47.200 --> 01:13:19.050 So it's different person, solutions, options. So we have to work together for the saame goal with different responsibility 01:13:19.050 --> 01:13:26.600 It's very much about interdisciplinary collaboration in special education. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:31.250 Then we have experts outside the school system. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 78% (H?Y) 01:13:31.250 --> 01:13:34.450 So it's many many levels. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 90% (H?Y) 01:13:34.450 --> 01:13:40.100 For example if it's the first time in the regular classroom and regular teacher have autism 01:13:40.100 --> 01:13:44.500 and you do not know anything about autism then you need experts. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 89% (H?Y) 01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:50.200 but you also need to be aware of the parents and the pupil. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 80% (H?Y) 01:13:50.700 --> 01:13:59.800 And I think that very often the teacher plan without involving the students, 01:13:59.800 --> 01:14:08.650 the last year in the secondary school I followed two cases and 01:14:08.650 --> 01:14:13.250 one of the cases was that she hated to go to school. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 80% (H?Y) 01:14:13.250 --> 01:14:16.900 She liked to be out practice. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 82% (H?Y) 01:14:19.200 --> 01:14:23.250 The counselor said that she NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM) 01:14:23.250 --> 01:14:29.800 does have an individual education plan and I asked her in the meeting 01:14:29.800 --> 01:14:36.600 if you seen it and do you have any involvement in the individual education plan but she didn't know what it was. 01:14:36.600 --> 01:14:46.300 So counselor in that situation that she thought 01:14:46.300 --> 01:14:51.900 she was informed but the people haven't understood anything about it. 01:14:56.100 --> 01:15:03.900 That was in the transition to Upper Secondary School, the upper secondary school she was 01:15:03.900 --> 01:15:21.850 able to do the practice, she had that as a part of the teaching and she managed to come trough all courses. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 68% (MEDIUM) 01:15:21.850 --> 01:15:29.100 But in the secondary school and primary school there haven't been NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 01:15:29.100 --> 01:15:37.200 involving her, she was adopted and her parents were very into it but when it's come to this things 01:15:37.200 --> 01:15:41.200 they couldn't managed to collaborate with the school. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 83% (H?Y) 01:15:41.200 --> 01:15:49.250 So I think that you have to have a partnership between 01:15:49.250 --> 01:15:52.350 the pupil and the parents and the teacher, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 84% (H?Y) 01:15:52.350 --> 01:16:01.350 equal partnership. But it's not teacher who is going to learn for the child and it's not the parents, 01:16:01.350 --> 01:16:07.350 but we support to help them figure out what they are expected to do. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 01:16:07.350 --> 01:16:13.200 and then we can say that the curriculum, is it social curriculum or is it an academic curriculum, 01:16:14.799 --> 01:16:17.549 what is it about? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 83% (H?Y) 01:16:17.549 --> 01:16:24.300 or do you work for skills for mastering your life? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 90% (H?Y) 01:16:29.050 --> 01:16:36.500 Vision and policy of inclusion, one is that you are placed in 01:16:36.500 --> 01:16:49.200 the class together with diverse pupils and then the issue is to make a sense of belongingness and in 01:16:49.200 --> 01:16:59.100 the inclusive setting, in the class but also to have acceptance for your level of mastering. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 01:17:00.400 --> 01:17:08.000 that you have different level and that's normal to have different level of mastering. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 01:17:08.000 --> 01:17:16.700 not that everyone are reaching the same goal. and then you also to have a common 01:17:16.700 --> 01:17:22.799 understanding of division the center concept of inclusion and it's difficult to help 01:17:22.799 --> 01:17:28.950 more than this, because if you expand it to be more, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 71% (MEDIUM) 01:17:28.950 --> 01:17:32.000 then it is so many things to handle. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 01:17:32.300 --> 01:17:37.400 but are you missing something here that you would put in? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 84% (H?Y) 01:17:37.800 --> 01:17:46.800 We said sense of belonging, acceptance in the community and we said the ordinary class 01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:48.700 and regular class. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 83% (H?Y) 01:17:50.200 --> 01:17:56.500 think it should be more clear with what this the diversity about. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 01:17:56.500 --> 01:18:03.750 it's also about that we are talking a lot of diagnosis. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 70% (MEDIUM) 01:18:03.750 --> 01:18:13.100 so you will see when you come to the course after springtime that then we have almost only diagnosis. 01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:21.400 and I'm interested to see how much and that I think that you can tell me, because I have the 01:18:21.400 --> 01:18:27.100 beginning lecture and I will have middle and end so you can say how much did they 01:18:27.100 --> 01:18:30.750 talk about inclusion when they're talking about diagnosis. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 80% (H?Y) 01:19:19.400 --> 01:19:28.300 I think when you say diagnosis in Norway learning disabilities are diagnosis. 01:19:28.300 --> 01:19:36.400 so if you are blind and you have learning 01:19:36.400 --> 01:19:40.450 difficulties then you need special education. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 80% (H?Y) 01:19:40.450 --> 01:19:48.100 but when you talk about more and more about ADHD or Autism. 01:19:48.100 --> 01:19:56.300 then you started putting diagnosis on people and if you talk about 01:19:56.300 --> 01:20:04.800 like he has autism, he has a ADHD, then you talk more about the 01:20:04.800 --> 01:20:07.150 diagnosis instead talking about the real NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 82% (H?Y) 01:20:07.150 --> 01:20:14.100 person that in front of you. So this is the balance. 01:20:14.100 --> 01:20:17.950 We need to talk about it because NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM) 01:20:17.950 --> 01:20:24.700 you need to have knowledge about the characteristics that does it difficult for 01:20:24.700 --> 01:20:32.200 you to learn. but that will not be what we are talking about. We should know about the 01:20:32.200 --> 01:20:34.900 methods that will help you. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 87% (H?Y) 01:20:56.000 --> 01:21:02.100 The paper is not saying everything. 01:21:02.100 --> 01:21:07.300 We do intellectual testing to Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM) 01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:19.400 see how you are functioning, is your have cognitive level behind or have very good skills or are in the normal, 01:21:19.400 --> 01:21:27.000 so then it's more about the learning in school and very much about academic, 01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:35.500 learning to read, mathematics... As if the diagnosis is more put on front and 01:21:35.500 --> 01:21:39.799 you talk too much about learning problems, behavior problems NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 01:21:39.799 --> 01:21:46.000 then that can be more diagnosis approach instead 01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:48.150 of having the environment or NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 73% (MEDIUM) 01:21:48.150 --> 01:21:54.950 inclusive approach so is the connection between these things that's important because it's 01:21:54.950 --> 01:22:02.400 how you can handle. if you have autism maybe you have some difficulty with 01:22:02.400 --> 01:22:07.700 making friends so then we have to see how can we help you. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 01:22:32.400 --> 01:22:39.400 I don't know how it's in your country for perspective of inclusion because 01:22:39.400 --> 01:22:49.000 we have very strict educational act that we have to follow and I do not know how it is in your country. 01:23:30.600 --> 01:23:40.700 We have Psychology Services and we have something called Statped that are giving support to the schools and 01:23:40.700 --> 01:23:49.200 they have not too deep into the diagnosis if you have for example autism. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 80% (H?Y) 01:24:01.400 --> 01:24:09.300 if you get that kind of diagnosis like ADHD we have a system that are 01:24:09.300 --> 01:24:13.100 doing it, it's not pedagogical Psychology Services. 01:24:17.900 --> 01:24:25.600 But it's almost like you see that they had this 01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:32.000 description of diagnosis but also how you can do that in an inclusive setting. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 83% (H?Y) 01:24:32.500 --> 01:24:42.000 but it's different in different countries for how they practices, so what I did when I was working 01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:48.900 in upper secondary school, that was another act than from the primary and secondary school, I have to go 01:24:48.900 --> 01:24:53.150 into that act to understand how it was. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 01:24:53.150 --> 01:24:57.000 and then see how I could practice it NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 86% (H?Y) 01:25:35.600 --> 01:25:45.400 You have to get special education when you need it but I have been doing two kind of research I have seen 01:25:45.400 --> 01:25:52.400 the quality in special education then I have had so and so many with special education that I have 01:25:52.400 --> 01:25:59.200 looked about how that the system worked with that, then I have been in school with not diagnosis or 01:25:59.200 --> 01:26:05.050 anything too see how they practice inclusive education for all. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 87% (H?Y) 01:26:05.050 --> 01:26:13.900 then I haven't needed to have any diagnosis because I see how the classroom is working for everyone, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 84% (H?Y) 01:26:15.300 --> 01:26:21.300 I think if you go this way it's better to go from 01:26:21.300 --> 01:26:29.800 the top and then see it afterwards but since you have to have individual decision that you have 01:26:29.800 --> 01:26:34.900 learning difficulties to get special education, we also need to look at that. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 78% (H?Y) 01:26:48.300 --> 01:26:57.000 but I think that the way that I am teaching is more on the overall perspective, what has 01:26:57.000 --> 01:26:58.750 to be in the school NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 71% (MEDIUM) 01:26:58.750 --> 01:27:07.700 to manage this thing because they have many pupils with need for differentiation, 01:27:07.700 --> 01:27:12.700 could be understanding, problem with this, problem with that, so that's not special 01:27:12.700 --> 01:27:18.900 education. is it's kind of a society that when pupil need something that they need support from 01:27:18.900 --> 01:27:22.100 the teacher, that's more what we need to look at. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 87% (H?Y) 01:27:22.900 --> 01:27:31.300 and then how to practice inclusive education in school, 01:27:31.300 --> 01:27:37.400 because of you we have already been into it because we said how can we manage to make a Universal 01:27:37.400 --> 01:27:45.500 Design, pedagogical design time classroom. this is a way to do it. 01:27:45.500 --> 01:27:53.90 It is very interesting but they had open schools in Norway from 1980s, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 80% (H?Y) 01:27:53.900 --> 01:27:58.750 classes together, three classes together. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 01:27:58.750 --> 01:28:02.850 that was interesting in the secondary school. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 01:28:02.850 --> 01:28:09.100 and I think it was seventh eight ninth grade, that stopped. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM) 01:28:09.100 --> 01:28:15.100 Then they opened schools with same level for example 9th grades together, three classes. 01:28:15.100 --> 01:28:22.800 then when the teachers didn't like it they closed the open classrooms. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:31.000 and I think it's so many possible to have three teacher together with open classroom, possibility to 01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:39.300 guidance to every pupil instead of standing there to teach like this NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 69% (MEDIUM) 01:28:39.300 --> 01:28:42.000 and tell everyone the same. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 71% (MEDIUM) 01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:51.300 and I think it has to be education for teachers but also the education for special 01:28:51.300 --> 01:28:59.700 educators, they need to know these things to make it better for everyone. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 72% (MEDIUM) 01:28:59.900 --> 01:29:10.300 that's difficult, it has to change. and I think this is so little bit 01:29:10.300 --> 01:29:16.200 what you are doing, you have to think about this, 01:29:16.200 --> 01:29:21.600 this is the only way that we can change this. but then you come to school and the teacher is old-fashioned 01:29:21.600 --> 01:29:24.549 teacher and then you get into it NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 84% (H?Y) 01:29:24.549 --> 01:29:32.800 because they make you into the traditional system. if you cannot as I was thinking about making a school, 01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:40.100 creating that all people work together... NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 87% (H?Y) 01:29:56.000 --> 01:30:03.200 The time is going because we are discussing and that's interesting because then we get more into it, 01:30:03.200 --> 01:30:11.400 but maybe it's not well suited for those who are on zoom but I think it's good for me to do 01:30:11.400 --> 01:30:19.400 it more lively to the topic, so but we need also to see how we can practice inclusion in Special 01:30:19.400 --> 01:30:22.200 Needs education because it's still there are so many NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 77% (H?Y) 01:30:22.200 --> 01:30:27.950 special schools and then think the opposite as they had done in Norway that we have 01:30:27.950 --> 01:30:35.950 been having a special Resource Center where those with very very severe 01:30:35.950 --> 01:30:41.150 disabilities go into school and classes with a teacher with them. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y) 01:30:41.150 --> 01:30:48.500 so and then you have to clarify the support system and the role of different actors. we went into 01:30:48.500 --> 01:30:55.800 school and studied how they organize it and it seems like they did not talk 01:30:55.800 --> 01:31:01.800 about clarifying the roles so there can be three people who are in the classroom and they don't 01:31:01.800 --> 01:31:04.450 know who are doing what. NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 87% (H?Y) 01:31:04.450 --> 01:31:12.700 so this is important. and then develop curriculum on different level, National, local and individual. 01:31:12.700 --> 01:31:14.900 So what's the time now? NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y) 01:31:16.900 --> 01:31:27.000 Time is up, we have to stop. That was one PowerPoint that I had of 10, I will show you 01:31:27.000 --> 01:31:34.600 this one, this one very seldom used for organizational 01:31:34.600 --> 01:31:41.800 theory in inclusive education work and the focus on the user 01:31:41.800 --> 01:31:46.350 pupil continuous Improvement, totally participation, NOTE Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y) 01:31:46.350 --> 01:31:53.100 participating in networks. I will explain you more about what it is next time but participating the 01:31:53.100 --> 01:32:00.300 network is most important thing that we have to work together to learn from each other, 01:32:00.300 --> 01:32:08.300 to make a learning organization that will do good inclusive education for everyone. 01:32:08.300 --> 01:32:22.900 so thank you for today, see you on Wednesday.